“Our marriage hasn’t always been that great. In fact, we were on the brink of divorce after 12 years and our only saving grace was marriage counseling.” I’m interviewing friends of mine with “great marriages” for this blog and was surprised to hear Mary admit it wasn’t always rosy.

“Counseling made our marriage stronger but it was a tough six months. We learned a lot about each other, especially about the role of submission in our marriage.”

“This isn’t going to be another story of a Christian counselor lecturing the wife on Ephesians 5, “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands,” is it?” I asked.